Segmentation fault output is suppressed when piping stdin into a function. Why? The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern) 2019 Community Moderator Election ResultsDoes `Segmentation fault` message come under STDERR?Segmentation fault with dialogPiping commands, modify stdin write to stdoutPipe Fail (141) when piping output into tee — why?Segmentation fault when calling a recursive bash functionWhat exactly is the function piping into the other function in this fork bomb :() :;:?Why script that kill itself using a signal handler produce segmentation fault?Segmentation fault: 11 encounter while installing a programPiping PID into jstackWhy isn't it possible to read from `stdin` with `read` when piping a script to bash?

Segmentation fault output is suppressed when piping stdin into a function. Why?

The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1397BC53640DB551

What was the last x86 CPU that did not have the x87 floating-point unit built in?

Do warforged have souls?

Mortgage adviser recommends a longer term than necessary combined with overpayments

Keeping a retro style to sci-fi spaceships?

Is above average number of years spent on PhD considered a red flag in future academia or industry positions?

What do you call a plan that's an alternative plan in case your initial plan fails?

How to grep and cut numbes from a file and sum them

What aspect of planet Earth must be changed to prevent the industrial revolution?

How to delete random line from file using Unix command?

Why not take a picture of a closer black hole?

Hopping to infinity along a string of digits

Can withdrawing asylum be illegal?

A pet rabbit called Belle

Problems with Ubuntu mount /tmp

Can smartphones with the same camera sensor have different image quality?

How to test the equality of two Pearson correlation coefficients computed from the same sample?

How to pronounce 1ターン?

Is it ethical to upload a automatically generated paper to a non peer-reviewed site as part of a larger research?

Create an outline of font

Take groceries in checked luggage

Scientific Reports - Significant Figures

How did the audience guess the pentatonic scale in Bobby McFerrin's presentation?



Segmentation fault output is suppressed when piping stdin into a function. Why?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)
2019 Community Moderator Election ResultsDoes `Segmentation fault` message come under STDERR?Segmentation fault with dialogPiping commands, modify stdin write to stdoutPipe Fail (141) when piping output into tee — why?Segmentation fault when calling a recursive bash functionWhat exactly is the function piping into the other function in this fork bomb :() :;:?Why script that kill itself using a signal handler produce segmentation fault?Segmentation fault: 11 encounter while installing a programPiping PID into jstackWhy isn't it possible to read from `stdin` with `read` when piping a script to bash?



.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;








4















Let's define a function to execute a binary:



function execute() ./binary; 


Then define a second function to pipe a text file into the first function:



function test() execute; 


If binary crashes with a segfault, then calling test from the CLI will result in a 139 return code, but the error - "Segmentation fault" - will not be printed to the terminal.



"Segmentation fault" does get printed if we define test to call binary directly:



function test() ./binary; 


It also gets printed if we define to call execute without piping stdin into it:



function test() execute; 


Finally, it also gets printed if we redirect in.txt into execute directly instead of through a pipe:



function test() execute <in.txt; 


This was tested on Bash 4.4. Why is that?










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago

















4















Let's define a function to execute a binary:



function execute() ./binary; 


Then define a second function to pipe a text file into the first function:



function test() execute; 


If binary crashes with a segfault, then calling test from the CLI will result in a 139 return code, but the error - "Segmentation fault" - will not be printed to the terminal.



"Segmentation fault" does get printed if we define test to call binary directly:



function test() ./binary; 


It also gets printed if we define to call execute without piping stdin into it:



function test() execute; 


Finally, it also gets printed if we redirect in.txt into execute directly instead of through a pipe:



function test() execute <in.txt; 


This was tested on Bash 4.4. Why is that?










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago













4












4








4








Let's define a function to execute a binary:



function execute() ./binary; 


Then define a second function to pipe a text file into the first function:



function test() execute; 


If binary crashes with a segfault, then calling test from the CLI will result in a 139 return code, but the error - "Segmentation fault" - will not be printed to the terminal.



"Segmentation fault" does get printed if we define test to call binary directly:



function test() ./binary; 


It also gets printed if we define to call execute without piping stdin into it:



function test() execute; 


Finally, it also gets printed if we redirect in.txt into execute directly instead of through a pipe:



function test() execute <in.txt; 


This was tested on Bash 4.4. Why is that?










share|improve this question
















Let's define a function to execute a binary:



function execute() ./binary; 


Then define a second function to pipe a text file into the first function:



function test() execute; 


If binary crashes with a segfault, then calling test from the CLI will result in a 139 return code, but the error - "Segmentation fault" - will not be printed to the terminal.



"Segmentation fault" does get printed if we define test to call binary directly:



function test() ./binary; 


It also gets printed if we define to call execute without piping stdin into it:



function test() execute; 


Finally, it also gets printed if we redirect in.txt into execute directly instead of through a pipe:



function test() execute <in.txt; 


This was tested on Bash 4.4. Why is that?







bash command-line






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 1 hour ago







Dun Peal

















asked 1 hour ago









Dun PealDun Peal

1545




1545







  • 3





    FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago












  • 3





    FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago







  • 1





    Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

    – Kusalananda
    1 hour ago







3




3





FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

– Kusalananda
1 hour ago






FWIW, I can confirm the same behaviour with Bash 5.0.3.

– Kusalananda
1 hour ago





1




1





Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

– Kusalananda
1 hour ago





Upon further investigation, this seems to be related to whether the shell is running in interactive or non-interactive mode. The error is printed in non-interactive mode.

– Kusalananda
1 hour ago










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















3














This diagnostic message is generated by the interactive shell's job control system, for the benefit of the user - it's not from the underlying program that crashed. When you pipe into a shell function a subshell is spawned to run the function, and this subshell is not treated as user-facing. If you call the function normally, it runs within the original shell, and the message is printed.



You can test this out by disabling job control in your current shell



set +m


and then running ./binary again: now it won't print anything there either. Re-enable job control with set -m.



Even a bare subshell has the same effect:



( : ; ./binary )


will print no diagnostic (two commands are required in there to avoid a subshell-eliding optimisation). Piping out of the function does it too.



Job control is disabled in the subshell, and even with it enabled manually, it's silenced. This is an unfortunate gap in the system. In a non-interactive shell the message would always be reported through a different mechanism, and anywhere else in an interactive shell it would as well.




If printing the diagnostic is important to you, making a script instead of a function will allow you to make sure it's always included. Since you're using the function in a pipeline, you can't do anything that requires a function anyway, so there's not a major cost to doing so.




I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this is a bug. One possible reason to behave in this way is to make command substitution $(...), which also runs a subshell, behave appropriately:



foo=$(echo|test)


shouldn't result in the diagnostic message being stored in foo, so that pipeline failures result in empty expansions. Another is as a way to temporarily suppress the diagnostic messages deliberately.






share|improve this answer























    Your Answer








    StackExchange.ready(function()
    var channelOptions =
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "106"
    ;
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
    createEditor();
    );

    else
    createEditor();

    );

    function createEditor()
    StackExchange.prepareEditor(
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: false,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: null,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader:
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    ,
    onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    );



    );













    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function ()
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2funix.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f512321%2fsegmentation-fault-output-is-suppressed-when-piping-stdin-into-a-function-why%23new-answer', 'question_page');

    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes








    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    3














    This diagnostic message is generated by the interactive shell's job control system, for the benefit of the user - it's not from the underlying program that crashed. When you pipe into a shell function a subshell is spawned to run the function, and this subshell is not treated as user-facing. If you call the function normally, it runs within the original shell, and the message is printed.



    You can test this out by disabling job control in your current shell



    set +m


    and then running ./binary again: now it won't print anything there either. Re-enable job control with set -m.



    Even a bare subshell has the same effect:



    ( : ; ./binary )


    will print no diagnostic (two commands are required in there to avoid a subshell-eliding optimisation). Piping out of the function does it too.



    Job control is disabled in the subshell, and even with it enabled manually, it's silenced. This is an unfortunate gap in the system. In a non-interactive shell the message would always be reported through a different mechanism, and anywhere else in an interactive shell it would as well.




    If printing the diagnostic is important to you, making a script instead of a function will allow you to make sure it's always included. Since you're using the function in a pipeline, you can't do anything that requires a function anyway, so there's not a major cost to doing so.




    I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this is a bug. One possible reason to behave in this way is to make command substitution $(...), which also runs a subshell, behave appropriately:



    foo=$(echo|test)


    shouldn't result in the diagnostic message being stored in foo, so that pipeline failures result in empty expansions. Another is as a way to temporarily suppress the diagnostic messages deliberately.






    share|improve this answer



























      3














      This diagnostic message is generated by the interactive shell's job control system, for the benefit of the user - it's not from the underlying program that crashed. When you pipe into a shell function a subshell is spawned to run the function, and this subshell is not treated as user-facing. If you call the function normally, it runs within the original shell, and the message is printed.



      You can test this out by disabling job control in your current shell



      set +m


      and then running ./binary again: now it won't print anything there either. Re-enable job control with set -m.



      Even a bare subshell has the same effect:



      ( : ; ./binary )


      will print no diagnostic (two commands are required in there to avoid a subshell-eliding optimisation). Piping out of the function does it too.



      Job control is disabled in the subshell, and even with it enabled manually, it's silenced. This is an unfortunate gap in the system. In a non-interactive shell the message would always be reported through a different mechanism, and anywhere else in an interactive shell it would as well.




      If printing the diagnostic is important to you, making a script instead of a function will allow you to make sure it's always included. Since you're using the function in a pipeline, you can't do anything that requires a function anyway, so there's not a major cost to doing so.




      I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this is a bug. One possible reason to behave in this way is to make command substitution $(...), which also runs a subshell, behave appropriately:



      foo=$(echo|test)


      shouldn't result in the diagnostic message being stored in foo, so that pipeline failures result in empty expansions. Another is as a way to temporarily suppress the diagnostic messages deliberately.






      share|improve this answer

























        3












        3








        3







        This diagnostic message is generated by the interactive shell's job control system, for the benefit of the user - it's not from the underlying program that crashed. When you pipe into a shell function a subshell is spawned to run the function, and this subshell is not treated as user-facing. If you call the function normally, it runs within the original shell, and the message is printed.



        You can test this out by disabling job control in your current shell



        set +m


        and then running ./binary again: now it won't print anything there either. Re-enable job control with set -m.



        Even a bare subshell has the same effect:



        ( : ; ./binary )


        will print no diagnostic (two commands are required in there to avoid a subshell-eliding optimisation). Piping out of the function does it too.



        Job control is disabled in the subshell, and even with it enabled manually, it's silenced. This is an unfortunate gap in the system. In a non-interactive shell the message would always be reported through a different mechanism, and anywhere else in an interactive shell it would as well.




        If printing the diagnostic is important to you, making a script instead of a function will allow you to make sure it's always included. Since you're using the function in a pipeline, you can't do anything that requires a function anyway, so there's not a major cost to doing so.




        I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this is a bug. One possible reason to behave in this way is to make command substitution $(...), which also runs a subshell, behave appropriately:



        foo=$(echo|test)


        shouldn't result in the diagnostic message being stored in foo, so that pipeline failures result in empty expansions. Another is as a way to temporarily suppress the diagnostic messages deliberately.






        share|improve this answer













        This diagnostic message is generated by the interactive shell's job control system, for the benefit of the user - it's not from the underlying program that crashed. When you pipe into a shell function a subshell is spawned to run the function, and this subshell is not treated as user-facing. If you call the function normally, it runs within the original shell, and the message is printed.



        You can test this out by disabling job control in your current shell



        set +m


        and then running ./binary again: now it won't print anything there either. Re-enable job control with set -m.



        Even a bare subshell has the same effect:



        ( : ; ./binary )


        will print no diagnostic (two commands are required in there to avoid a subshell-eliding optimisation). Piping out of the function does it too.



        Job control is disabled in the subshell, and even with it enabled manually, it's silenced. This is an unfortunate gap in the system. In a non-interactive shell the message would always be reported through a different mechanism, and anywhere else in an interactive shell it would as well.




        If printing the diagnostic is important to you, making a script instead of a function will allow you to make sure it's always included. Since you're using the function in a pipeline, you can't do anything that requires a function anyway, so there's not a major cost to doing so.




        I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this is a bug. One possible reason to behave in this way is to make command substitution $(...), which also runs a subshell, behave appropriately:



        foo=$(echo|test)


        shouldn't result in the diagnostic message being stored in foo, so that pipeline failures result in empty expansions. Another is as a way to temporarily suppress the diagnostic messages deliberately.







        share|improve this answer












        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer










        answered 38 mins ago









        Michael HomerMichael Homer

        50.9k8141178




        50.9k8141178



























            draft saved

            draft discarded
















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Unix & Linux Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid


            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function ()
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2funix.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f512321%2fsegmentation-fault-output-is-suppressed-when-piping-stdin-into-a-function-why%23new-answer', 'question_page');

            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            Isurus Índice Especies | Notas | Véxase tamén | Menú de navegación"A compendium of fossil marine animal genera (Chondrichthyes entry)"o orixinal"A review of the Tertiary fossil Cetacea (Mammalia) localities in wales port taf Museum Victoria"o orixinalThe Vertebrate Fauna of the Selma Formation of Alabama. Part VII. Part VIII. The Mosasaurs The Fishes50419737IDsh85068767Isurus2548834613242066569678159923NHMSYS00210535017845105743

            Is 1 ppb equal to 1 μg/kg? Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How to determine the concentration after a dilution with Beer's law?What would be SMILES notation for a compound with delocalized bonding?Amount of substance of a molecule in a solute the same as amount of substance of constituent elements?Interpreting notation format 1.64E-02 from particulate emission dataWhat was the lithium concentration in 1940's 7-Up?Why are osmoles not considered SI units?Why is Ka constant when volume is increased?Should residual sodium be considered in measuring sodium content of sweat?Concentration of mercury in bodyConversion from a PPB value to µg/m3 of Isobutylene

            What does “fit” mean in this sentence? Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How does 'jealousy' mean 'suspicion'?What does “not so say” mean?Does “somebody of my caliber” mean the speaker themselves?“accounting for high fasting blood glucose”- help about the meaningWhat does “cloaked by NDA” mean in this context?What does it mean by 'community ownership' in this context?What does “human corroborators” mean in this context?What does “everything but a fire” mean in this context?What does “run” mean here?What does “rabbited” mean/imply in this sentence?