Why is Ken so cheap?
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Why is Ken so cheap?
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I always hear that Ken is God Tier/broken/super cheap. What exactly about his block pattern makes him cheap though? It seems like Akuma/Devilot's block patterns are more random and dangerous.
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I always hear that Ken is God Tier/broken/super cheap. What exactly about his block pattern makes him cheap though? It seems like Akuma/Devilot's block patterns are more random and dangerous.
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I always hear that Ken is God Tier/broken/super cheap. What exactly about his block pattern makes him cheap though? It seems like Akuma/Devilot's block patterns are more random and dangerous.
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I always hear that Ken is God Tier/broken/super cheap. What exactly about his block pattern makes him cheap though? It seems like Akuma/Devilot's block patterns are more random and dangerous.
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Compare Ken's pattern in column 4 vs other characters. Column 4 must be cleared to allow more blocks to be played. Consider full pattern and half pattern x2 attacks.
If Ken drops his full pattern, you require 4 different color breaks. If Ken drops half pattern x2, you need 2x2 (r, g, r, g) color breaks.
Full Halfx2
4 2x2 Ken
4 2x2 Devilot (70% damage)
4 2x2 Akuma (70% damage)
2 1 Donovan
2x2 2x2 Sakura
2 1 ChunLi
2 1 Morrigan
2 1 Hsien-Ko
2 1 Felicia
1 1 Ryu
1 1 Dan
There you have it really, Ken's pattern attacks column 4 as hard as Devilot and Akuma, but without the damage penalty.
Ken's Pattern:
Ryu's Pattern (note the easy to attack column 4):
You might be playing puzzle fighter hd, which seems to have had balancing changes according to this article. If the article is correct, much of this column 4 analysis still holds:
- Ken still better than Akuma and Devilot (just a little less so).
- Ryu brought up into the rest of the pack, now is better than Dan.
- Hsien-Ko now as good as Ken (aka Overpowered!)
answered Mar 26 '12 at 21:40
Amy BAmy B
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Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
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Compare Ken's pattern in column 4 vs other characters. Column 4 must be cleared to allow more blocks to be played. Consider full pattern and half pattern x2 attacks.
If Ken drops his full pattern, you require 4 different color breaks. If Ken drops half pattern x2, you need 2x2 (r, g, r, g) color breaks.
Full Halfx2
4 2x2 Ken
4 2x2 Devilot (70% damage)
4 2x2 Akuma (70% damage)
2 1 Donovan
2x2 2x2 Sakura
2 1 ChunLi
2 1 Morrigan
2 1 Hsien-Ko
2 1 Felicia
1 1 Ryu
1 1 Dan
There you have it really, Ken's pattern attacks column 4 as hard as Devilot and Akuma, but without the damage penalty.
Ken's Pattern:
Ryu's Pattern (note the easy to attack column 4):
You might be playing puzzle fighter hd, which seems to have had balancing changes according to this article. If the article is correct, much of this column 4 analysis still holds:
- Ken still better than Akuma and Devilot (just a little less so).
- Ryu brought up into the rest of the pack, now is better than Dan.
- Hsien-Ko now as good as Ken (aka Overpowered!)
answered Mar 26 '12 at 21:40
Amy BAmy B
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Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
|
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Compare Ken's pattern in column 4 vs other characters. Column 4 must be cleared to allow more blocks to be played. Consider full pattern and half pattern x2 attacks.
If Ken drops his full pattern, you require 4 different color breaks. If Ken drops half pattern x2, you need 2x2 (r, g, r, g) color breaks.
Full Halfx2
4 2x2 Ken
4 2x2 Devilot (70% damage)
4 2x2 Akuma (70% damage)
2 1 Donovan
2x2 2x2 Sakura
2 1 ChunLi
2 1 Morrigan
2 1 Hsien-Ko
2 1 Felicia
1 1 Ryu
1 1 Dan
There you have it really, Ken's pattern attacks column 4 as hard as Devilot and Akuma, but without the damage penalty.
Ken's Pattern:
Ryu's Pattern (note the easy to attack column 4):
You might be playing puzzle fighter hd, which seems to have had balancing changes according to this article. If the article is correct, much of this column 4 analysis still holds:
- Ken still better than Akuma and Devilot (just a little less so).
- Ryu brought up into the rest of the pack, now is better than Dan.
- Hsien-Ko now as good as Ken (aka Overpowered!)
answered Mar 26 '12 at 21:40
Amy BAmy B
20.3k356113
Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
|
show 1 more comment
Compare Ken's pattern in column 4 vs other characters. Column 4 must be cleared to allow more blocks to be played. Consider full pattern and half pattern x2 attacks.
If Ken drops his full pattern, you require 4 different color breaks. If Ken drops half pattern x2, you need 2x2 (r, g, r, g) color breaks.
Full Halfx2
4 2x2 Ken
4 2x2 Devilot (70% damage)
4 2x2 Akuma (70% damage)
2 1 Donovan
2x2 2x2 Sakura
2 1 ChunLi
2 1 Morrigan
2 1 Hsien-Ko
2 1 Felicia
1 1 Ryu
1 1 Dan
There you have it really, Ken's pattern attacks column 4 as hard as Devilot and Akuma, but without the damage penalty.
Ken's Pattern:
Ryu's Pattern (note the easy to attack column 4):
You might be playing puzzle fighter hd, which seems to have had balancing changes according to this article. If the article is correct, much of this column 4 analysis still holds:
- Ken still better than Akuma and Devilot (just a little less so).
- Ryu brought up into the rest of the pack, now is better than Dan.
- Hsien-Ko now as good as Ken (aka Overpowered!)
answered Mar 26 '12 at 21:40
Amy BAmy B
20.3k356113
Compare Ken's pattern in column 4 vs other characters. Column 4 must be cleared to allow more blocks to be played. Consider full pattern and half pattern x2 attacks.
If Ken drops his full pattern, you require 4 different color breaks. If Ken drops half pattern x2, you need 2x2 (r, g, r, g) color breaks.
Full Halfx2
4 2x2 Ken
4 2x2 Devilot (70% damage)
4 2x2 Akuma (70% damage)
2 1 Donovan
2x2 2x2 Sakura
2 1 ChunLi
2 1 Morrigan
2 1 Hsien-Ko
2 1 Felicia
1 1 Ryu
1 1 Dan
There you have it really, Ken's pattern attacks column 4 as hard as Devilot and Akuma, but without the damage penalty.
Ken's Pattern:
Ryu's Pattern (note the easy to attack column 4):
You might be playing puzzle fighter hd, which seems to have had balancing changes according to this article. If the article is correct, much of this column 4 analysis still holds:
- Ken still better than Akuma and Devilot (just a little less so).
- Ryu brought up into the rest of the pack, now is better than Dan.
- Hsien-Ko now as good as Ken (aka Overpowered!)
answered Mar 26 '12 at 21:40
Amy BAmy B
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Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
|
show 1 more comment
Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
Good explanation; it's all about the single column, not the rows. Makes sense since the rows are rarely even. I shall have to bar friends from playing Ken now that I know why :)
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:50
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
@BenBrocka let the beginners play Ken. Everyone else should aspire to win with Dan.
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 21:52
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Good point. I tried so hard to beat a friend with Dan. I usually play Hsien-Ko. Looks like the non Dan/Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Devilot characters are pretty well balanced?
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 21:56
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Outside of Ken/Ryu/Dan, the remaining characters are fairly well balanced with respect to column 4 (imo even Akuma and Devilot are balanced due to their damage penalty). There are other aspects to the game: compare ChunLi and Sakura's pattern. You'd only take ChunLi if you were trying to get them to hit you harder (dan style)...
– Amy B
Mar 26 '12 at 22:01
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
Oh, yeah, I'm playing HD. I guess it's no wonder I never found Ken that overpowered. I think Ryu's pattern is the same though, I'll have to check
– Ben Brocka
Mar 26 '12 at 22:20
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